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US vice presidential candidate condemns Hezbollah – and confuses it with Syria PDF Print E-mail
Written by Now Lebanon   
Friday, 03 October 2008

Joe Biden, the US Democratic Party’s vice-presidential candidate, condemned Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah on Thursday night, but mixed up Hezbollah with Syria.

Speaking in a debate with his opponent, Republican candidate Sarah Palin, he referred to the US’s Middle East policy by saying, “When we kicked - along with France - we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon,” a statement assumed to confuse Hezbollah with Syria.

Biden said that both he and Democrat presidential candidate Barack Obama had said, “‘Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don't know - if you don't, Hezbollah will control it.’”

He went on to say, “Now what's happened? Hezbollah is a legitimate part of the government in the country immediately to the north of Israel.”

He also expressed concerns about Iran and groups in Lebanon that he associated with the Iranian government. “The only thing on the march is Iran,” he said. “It's closer to a bomb. Its proxies now have a major stake in Lebanon.”

After saying that elections in the West Bank had been a mistake because they had led to the election of Hamas,  Biden promised that Democrat policy in the region would be one of “thoughtful, real, live diplomacy that understands that you must back Israel in letting them negotiate, support their negotiation, and stand with them.”

-  NOW Staff

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Keeping Up With Biden II — Does Anyone Remember When We "Kicked Hezbollah Out of Lebanon"?   [Andy McCarthy]

At the debate last night, Sen. Biden argued that (a) that we had "kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon" and (b) he and Obama had suggested sending NATO troops to Lebanon to "fill the vacuum":

 

Biden at Last Night’s Debate:

When we kicked — along with France, we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon, I said and Barack said, "Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don't know — if you don't, Hezbollah will control it."  Now what's happened? Hezbollah is a legitimate part of the government in the country immediately to the north of Israel.

My question, or rather, questions:  Is he on drugs?  Exactly when did this kicking occur?  Has anyone alerted Sheikh Nasrallah? 

And the NATO claim is just a riot.  Obviously, there was no vacuum to fill since Hezbollah has only grown in strength in Lebanon since 1983, but has anyone seen something, anything, to support the claim that Biden or Obama wanted NATO in Lebanon — a proposal that would have been wildly controversial and would have made ballistic the hard Left voters they were then bending over backwards to attract?
 
On the off chance Biden simply misspoke and was actually talking about kicking Syria out of Lebanon, (a) we didn't do that either — they've never stopped operating there, (b) Hezbollah was part of the Lebanese government well before demands for a Syrian pull-out began in 2005, (c) Biden's "fill the vacuum" whopper still makes no sense because Hezbollah retained military control of southern Lebanon regardless of Syria, and (d) again, where is the proof that Biden or Obama wanted NATO to replace Syria — which would have pitted it against Hezbollah and invited a reprise of the 1983 Marine barracks bombing?


http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NDljMDc4M2ZjYzc1YmM1MDlhZmFiZGEyMjBiZDRmYzc=

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Updated at 7:58am ET 10/03/2008
The McCain campaign takes issue with at least 14 statements made by Biden during last night's debate. I wish they had links to their statements, there's really no reason not to when using the web. Nonetheless, here they are.

Updated at 8:09am ET 10/03/2008
Biden stated in last night's debate that Obama never said that he would meet unconditionally with Iranian President terrorist leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Maybe we can refresh the Delaware Senator's memory with this (Obama's response is the first, at 30 seconds in following the viewer's question):

 

Then we have, as Charles Johnson at LGF points out, "Mr. Foreign Policy Expert" himself, Joe Biden, confusing Gaza and the West Bank.

Here’s what the president said when we said no. He insisted on elections on the West Bank, when I said, and others said, and Barack Obama said, “Big mistake. Hamas will win. You’ll legitimize them.” What happened? Hamas won.

Updated at 11:21am ET 10/03/2008
I'm going to have to start another post covering Biden's gaffes/misstatements/outright lies if this continues.

The latest points back to the same place in the debate mentioned above where Biden confused Gaza and the West Bank. Rick Moran, at the American Thinker, calls it the "Mother of all Biden Gaffes". The statement in question is as this:

Here's what the president said when we said no. He insisted on elections on the West Bank, when I said, and others said, and Barack Obama said, "Big mistake. Hamas will win. You'll legitimize them." What happened? Hamas won.
When we kicked -- along with France, we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon, I said and Barack said, "Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don't know -- if you don't, Hezbollah will control it."

Now what's happened? Hezbollah is a legitimate part of the government in the country immediately to the north of Israel.

Moran explains in detail the absurdity of this statement and has updated his post with a piece written by Michael Totten, who has spent considerable time on the ground in Lebanon and has a firm understanding of the political landscape there.

What on Earth is he talking about? The United States and France may have kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon in an alternate universe, but nothing even remotely like that ever happened in this one.

Nobody - nobody - has ever kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon. Not the United States. Not France. Not Israel. And not the Lebanese. Nobody.

Joe Biden has literally no idea what he's talking about.

It's too bad debate moderator Gwen Ifill didn't catch him and ask a follow up question: When did the United States and France kick Hezbollah out of Lebanon?

The answer? Never. And did Biden and Senator Barack Obama really say NATO troops should be sent into Lebanon? When did they say that? Why would they say that? They certainly didn't say it because NATO needed to prevent Hezbollah from returning-since Hezbollah never went anywhere.

I tried to chalk this one up as just the latest of Biden's colorful gaffes. Did he mean to say "we kicked Syria out of Lebanon?" But that wouldn't make any more sense. First of all, the Lebanese kicked Syria out of Lebanon. Not the United States, and not France. But he clearly meant to say Hezbollah, not Syria, because he correctly notes just a few sentences later that Hezbollah is part of Lebanon's government. He wasn't talking about Syria. He was talking about Hezbollah all the way through, at the beginning, in the middle, and at the end of his outlandish assertion.



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